They promote their conferences, they sell books by Piper, Mahaney, DeYoung and the rest. Sadly, nothing. I was furious but also too new to the church and too scared to call him out on it. Yes, sometimes. WebSpeech disorders affect roughly 11.5% of the US population, and 5% of the primary school population. unable to endure sound doctrine of bitter, the roughage of whole bran, the artisan heavy-bread with its uneven texture and low-glycemic index but a lasting satiety which sustains the hungry soul! Who would we be seeking after with all our heart, soul, and mind in a worship labeled service. Many in the radical reformation rejected that idea as unbiblical. Possibly a merger of IMB and NAMB which would be useful bury several issues *and* create new opportunities. Find a church in which the pastor knows you name and truly cares about you-not an abstract you who is just a part of a mass of faces. Maybe the problem is not David Platt but the mega church experience. Yeah, I think I get your point, and I appreciate the response. MBC has a full-time administrative pastor and staff, and it seems that they are happy with Platt bringing the star power. It has less than half the members and attendance it had when he came. You have an actual job with many other responsibilities. On the subject of tax: David Platts Radical Inc. (and also the Gospel Coalition and Ken Hams Answers in Genesis) are non-profit 501c3 organisations. I actually did. He clearly could not know everyone by name as our capacity as humanssociologically speakingtaps out at around 150 (if you look at the literature). He may well love all but he has said that not all survive the judgment. The mission of God, if I may use that term, is the salvation of the world, not just the salvation of me and mine. Its much better to have the Holy Spirit glory Christ in me, than I trying to be intentional about it. McLean has gradually lost the credibility it once had back in the 80s and 90s. Actually, liberal lefty functions only as temporary place holder for me. Please preface it with, As the New Testament CLEARLY shows in XYZ, Law Prof wrote: I look forward to reading what she has to say about the sexual abuse coverup in the church her ex-husband, Joshua was senior pastor. The Anyabwiles can draw a bigger crowd? GSD [Getting Stuff Done] wrote: Personally collecting and sending funds from one local body of believers to a non-local body of believers who were in need? Unless you show me some passages that demonstrate it was the norm. Those who choice encounter this suspicious and questionable phenomenon should exit this religious establishment quickly. Mike Wittmer : LZ Granderson, a member of Rob Bells church and a regular contributor to CNN and ESPN, wrote a column today for CNN.com which illustrates the problem that I try to correct in the first two chapters of I know many folks like me at Mclean. Never did. This present darkness is not just doctrine, (Best to take a lk for yourself, before its too late), Spy Why are we so downright stupid? Sermon on the Mount definitely This is true. Will Its people slump into a false religious quagmire of fifteenth century religious darkness? United prayer, therefore, requires that the one for whom we pray be looking away from us to the Lord Jesus Christ, and we together look to Him alone (1), respectfully, as you anticipate heavenly things, make every effort to be found at peace with The Lord Jesus, and that pressing towards being without spot or blemish, growing in the grace and knowledge of our Savior Jesus Christ. @ Todd Wilhelm: If we then love God we will/should obey God, or so Jesus said regarding himself. Standing up on a stage, being the only voice heard in a comfortably organised setting where everyone is explicitly there to hear you speak, is among the most seductively intoxicating pleasures anywhere in this life. And its the craziest thing ever. Membership Covenants He makes a concerted effort to know peoples names. The model in the New Testament was shared leadership. Youre modeling New Testament now? Id be very interested. Real people need real pastors who walk with them through real life like Jesus did, not an image projected on a screen that is scripted and is not real. Mahaney and Wayne Grudem repeatedly regurgitate the same few sermons time after time. Our collective gathering together has far more impact than the individual can judge from our own vantage point. Oh wow Lydia, now you are getting into the territory that my daughter was discovering when she was at school in Baltimore and dating an SGM man. Find a church in which the pastor knows you name and truly cares about you-not an abstract you who is just a part of a mass of faces. Madison Avenue helps to appeal to the wants and desires of the target audience. With a seminary degree???? Is it any wonder why those of discerning tastes are leaving the brand of loyalty and switching bakeries? Learn from the Primitive Baptists and early Holiness folks (not todays clergy model) and early Quakers (not todays nonChristian version.). Paul talks about the fellowship of His sufferings. (PS: We would like to know how many of Ed Stetzer church plants survived.It's a little hard to get that number). Christianity started around a table, not a pulpit. I spend 7-10 hours studying Gods word and I am not preparing a sermon. Birds of a feather stick together, I guess that is why Platt has no problem appearing on the conference circuit with C.J. There might be potential liability issues should someone not a part of the church be injured on the premises, perhaps certain events wouldnt be covered under their policy, but that has absolutely nothing to do with the tax treatment of a 501(c)(3). One of the commenters proceeded to lecture me on how everyone has the same 24 hours in a day and that I was just being lazy on getting my own information. I grew up Church of Christ however; denominations mean nothing to me. But a sermon writing service? Could be. Balance is such a godly thing, and takes time and Im working on it. One guy is not so indispensable and amazing that we need a video feed of him; it can be done by a real person in the location. Im not there yet. Suffice to say, God desires a cleaned-up people group, where He can dwell in their midst. In other words, I am thinking that different people have different needs, and some folks cannot deal with chaos and want rules and procedures and organization and having somebody in charge. Meeting in homes instead of large church buildings? The elders of McLean Bible Church (MBC) have asked Dr. David Platt to consider becoming Pastor-Teacher of the church, a title used in the churchs constitution to describe the pastor whose primary duty is to preach and teach the Word of God. As Pastor-Teacher (or Teaching Pastor), Dr. Platt would serve alongside other pastors in the church including Dale Sutherland, who is the Lead Pastor responsible for overall day-to-day leadership in the church. To be fair most denominations have never heard of him as the lawsuit has not received any media coverage over here. If a merger is in the works (someone at SBC Today suggested that might be the case and was chided by a writer at SBCVoices for writing it which made me think its true) Ezell seems like the likely candidate. We are disgusted that its gone neo-Cal and SBC. I mean, they were so mad I have no doubt theyre trying to find me. The ESS controversy is a great example, but there are more. I see benefit to this in those cases. In my opinion, the real trick is how much of that stuff do you (generic you) wanna extrapolate out the Bibles way back when and try an make it apply in the here and now? Yes, Hug. I wonder when. Thats better left to the students he and Piper appeal to at their annual Cross Conference. And it is He himself, the Jesus of keep my commandments who says to some depart from me He actually knew my name and used it." That makes me sad. LOL at Dee telling Deb to check her text messages. Platt can recite long Scripture passages from memory and moves from one precise biblical reference to another to back up his points, which focus heavily on Then those who gladly received his word were baptized; and that day about three thousand souls were added to them. Acts 2:41, NKJV @ refugee: And, I dont see church life as being an effective way to keep theologians from getting off-track. They will know him just as well as his church will know him which is not at all. Or is FIEC the T4G/TGC/9Marks beachhead in the kingdom? Fear strikes at the hearts of the men of the NAMB. PHD student. Perhaps David Platt can get some pointers from Kevin DeYoung. I am preparing myself to disciple others. We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. Or do you mean the Mega New Testament Church model, in which the large full-time staff are comfortably paid wages from the offering baskets of the local believers No disrespect to the multitude of honest, hard working real pastors who labor faithfully, week in and week out in normal churches with an average of 100-200 in attendance each week. This leaves the door wide open for our congregation to see areas of leadership where they are needed, and to respond accordingly.". My husband said something that has stuck with me the past few months. 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